In general, we love the character of the Europeans. They are clean, sophisticated, refined people who are fond of art and science. But their deep governments are very cruel. Americans are also very nice people, happy and full of life. We love all the Americans. But their deep government is very ruthless. They are blood-thirsty tyrants. I am talking about the particular people in their deep governments. Of course not everyone in their deep governments are like that; some of them can be humane and against oppression. But amongst them there are so many cruel people.
- And Mr. Oktar, you are the only one who is talking to them in a reasonable manner. Many Muslims always choose to approach them with hostility. But because your ideas are very reasonable, even people with very different ideas change their minds and we have witnessed so many examples of that in the past years.
Adnan Oktar: The PKK is like a disease, like a germ. If they were targeting the Europeans, the Europeans would have stopped them a long time ago. That is what happened with Iran.
And the PKK is very respectful to Europe and America. They [PKK members] tell each other, ‘Let’s not cause a scene there, let’s not disrespect their flags, let’s hold rallies that are very orderly and respectful. Let’s not shout too much, let’s be kind and respectful to their officials and their civil servants.’ But when it comes to Turkey, they are very very hostile, and spoiled. They burn down everything in their path, martyr our police officers, our soldiers. And Europe encourages them. That decision to destroy Turkey is being followed. That is a big danger. That is why all the Turkish people should stand united. They think that we are naïve and not very intelligent, and that we can be fooled easily and that they could employ some tactics. ISIS was the first case that taught them that those tactics would not work. They were utterly shocked.
The bloodshed in the region has been continuing for many years now. ISIS has killed people, terrorized communities, burnt down places, and Europe could not care less. But when they started targeting and hunting down the PKK, Europe sprang into action. They do not really care about the massacres carried out by ISIS; but care very much ISIS targeting the PKK, because the PKK was their strongest leverage against Turkey and they lost that. There is nothing they can do anymore. ISIS took control of the entire region, and the PKK were paralyzed and eradicated. PKK members are now trapped in Kandil and ISIS will destroy that place as well. And Europe, completely besotted by the latest developments, is trying to stop this with all its might, using its media. They say ‘Release [PKK leader] Abdullah Ocalan, divide Turkey immediately’, etc. They should forget about that. Europe should abandon those filthy ideas. Turkey will not divide. We will never allow that to happen.
- The chief of staff of the US military said that they failed no matter what they did.
Adnan Oktar: They cannot succeed, because God is not allowing them.
- One high-ranking CIA official said that ‘Even if we send ground troops, we would not be able to defeat ISIS’.
Adnan Oktar: True, of course.
- They say, ‘No matter what we do, their numbers increase’.
Adnan Oktar: Because for years, they humiliated, tormented and massacred those people [of the Middle East]. For years, they disrespected them, treated them like they are not humans, treated them with hostility and cruelty and [the people of the region] exploded, they were almost driven crazy because of that treatment. They lost their minds. And now they became people who kill and butcher people all the time. They also encouraged the orthodox, conservative interpretation of Islam there and as a result of that, the current disaster came about. And now they do not know how to deal with this. But the real reason [for emergence of ISIS] is that the Muslim youth, the Muslim communities there were humiliated and insulted so much for so long. And this is their reaction to that years-long humiliation. They drove the people of the region crazy. They chopped off their fingers, dried them and took to USA as souvenirs. They cut off their ears, took them back to America. In Abu Ghraib prison, they humiliated them so much. Stripped them naked, made them lie on top of each other like that, cursed and kicked them. Then they took them the back to USA and tortured them there too. They set up special torture camps here. They provoked some Shia against them. Killed them, terrorized them; the tyranny was so intense as to reach the skies. And [the people in the region] had enough and went crazy. And now they are butchering everyone they see. They lost their minds. They hurt the entire Muslim youth. Every time they heard the name ‘Muslim’, they would think of people who are insulted all the tim
